How do i change a pose spot on a mesh?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: How do i change a pose spot on a mesh? Reply with quote

i am wanting to derive from a derivable product.
it has 2 spots on it.. one that i want and one that i do NOT want.

the spot that i do not want is a sitting pose, so changing it into
a standing spot would create a standing spot hovering in the air
and that i do NOT want.

How do i change the properties of the sitting spot
so that it matches the properties of the other pose?

so that it would not matter if i clicked on the sitting or pose spot
that i would end up posing exactly the same, either way?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The change has to be done in the xsf file , and this one only the original mesher has it, unless you replace / make and upload you own whit your own poses.
the easies would be to ask the mesher , see if he / she can do it like you want it.
can you make furniture poses and know how to name them?
cos you may be able if you replace the xsf file and maybe use the poses already on the product but that will be to try few times and see if it work and to read the tutorial how to make poses and furniture poses and how to make them work on create.
or maybe they will not work.. no sure never done it.
so if i was you i would ask the original mesher or make a request on the request forum .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where do i find the original mesher? should i contact the developer of the derivable product?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twistednanny wrote:
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i would have mentioned the specific mesh already except that forum rules do not allow us to show any products in a bad light.

The product has 1 good spot and 1 bad spot in mai opinion, so instead of publicly discussing the exact product i must be careful only to ask about the process.

What steps to do i need to take to find the original mesher with a product?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep clicking the blue "Derived from" link until you get back to the imvu parent mesh ... whoever uploaded the mesh from there is the original mesher, click their name which will take you to their catty and there will be a link to their homepage.

If you change the sitting pose to standing it should have the feet on the ground unless the pose node was raised in the mesh.

If you have no luck contacting the mesher, PM me and I can make a new XSF for you as long as the item is GA as I don't have an AP.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The product appears to be derived from

Chair Relaxed (denim)
By IMVU inc.

so that is really not useful at all.

it IS an AP product.

Out of curiosity, i tried the product again in the shop
and when i was on the sitting spot i spoke a trigger
for a standing pose - it moved me away to one side and let me stand

if i knew how to turn the sitting node into a standing node
it would be inconvenient but acceptable i guess.
at least it would not be standing through the other pose.

i am asking how do do this,
not asking for others to do this for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever derived from the imvu chair is the mesher.

In the actions tab (if it is a custom pose) ... choose the blank space at the top of the XAF drop down window.
Where it says "Trigger" at the top, change it to stance.Standing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaraKaine wrote:
Whoever derived from the imvu chair is the mesher.

In the actions tab (if it is a custom pose) ... choose the blank space at the top of the XAF drop down window.
Where it says "Trigger" at the top, change it to stance.Standing


Thank you very much i will try that today!

Edit:

i tried this with each of the two stances in the Actions menu
each time it created a ruined effect.
Changing the 1:stance caused the sitting pose to become
a standing pose at a 45 degree angle in the exact spot that it was sitting,
and the 2nd pose was suddenly leaning on its side.

Changing the 0:stance caused the avatar to swirl out of proportion,
arms and legs stretched like ribbon.

what ever the deriver did it is apparently not going to be fixed so easy.
i can try contacting the deriver and see if they are willing to either undo what they did in a different mesh or maybe they will just make a version of the product with no 2nd pose and remove the furniture?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds as though the mesher may have rotated the nodes to an angle to suit the furniture, only a custom XSF or adding your own poses will fix that.

If you really want to derive the piece of furniture, then there is one other option, and that is to make it poseless ... you can just add your own poses to it when you decorate.

If this appeals then follow this link: http://englishtiger.co.uk/resources/index.html > "Create Mode Files"
Click on "Merlin's Furniture_Root Zip File", download and unzip the file, then exchange it for the product's XSF.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaraKaine wrote:
Sounds as though the mesher may have rotated the nodes to an angle to suit the furniture, only a custom XSF or adding your own poses will fix that.

If you really want to derive the piece of furniture, then there is one other option, and that is to make it poseless ... you can just add your own poses to it when you decorate.

If this appeals then follow this link: http://englishtiger.co.uk/resources/index.html > "Create Mode Files"
Click on "Merlin's Furniture_Root Zip File", download and unzip the file, then exchange it for the product's XSF.


The product is a furniture piece
with one beautiful pose on it
and one very ugly sitting pose.
fixed face, stretched body,
uncomfortable position..

if i had the program to do it with
i would remove the sitting pose,
remove the furniture
and just keep the one beautiful pose.

it was easy enough to use an opacity map
to make the furniture invisible,
but the messed up sitting pose is a problem.

i have written to the developer
maybe some thing good can come from this yet
maybe not.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to replace the ugly pose with another if you want to learn a new skill.

First read through this: http://englishtiger.co.uk/tutorials/cmtutorials/pages/mg_addremoveposes.html
Then if you want to go ahead you will have to buy this: http://fr.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=4902432
With this tool you can create your own pose to replace the ugly one ... by using the gizmo tool on the pelvis node you will also be able to raise, lower and rotate it to perfectly match the furniture ... or you could simply use it to make an "off-set" standing pose.

If you decide to go this route and get stuck, I can always send you screenshot tips to help visualise the process.

Good luck with whichever route you choose.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it will need to wait until mai VIP credits come, but yes i can get that
and in the time between now and then i can read about the steps.

it seems that i will just need to make a whole neu product instead
i can not just take that pose from the rest of the product as i hoped.

in time maybe i can start making pose products even with not having
the 900USD program ne? Maybe.

There are certainly many poses i have wished i could make.
passionate, subtle, loving poses that did not come stuck on degrading
abusive products..

maybe some day.

Thank you all very much for the help!
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